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| − | ==Auto | + | ==Auto Leveling== |
| − | + | Auto leveling in Sacred 2 is a hotly disputed subject, especially after the purported discovery that Oblivion "apparently" does it the same way. This section details the auto leveling in Sacred 2 and also explains why it is a completely different mechanic to the way Oblivion handled it, and also why, in fact, auto leveling is needed for Sacred 2 to function properly. | |
| − | ===Oblivion vs Sacred 2 Auto | + | ===Oblivion vs Sacred 2 Auto Leveling=== |
| + | There is, firstly, a misunderstanding about auto-leveling. Many players interchangeably use the term with the understanding that leveling is handled the same way in both Oblivion and Sacred 2, while both in fact are different. | ||
| − | + | Oblivion adjusted the monsters based upon a player's level. | |
| + | This is important: | ||
| − | Oblivion | + | Oblivion adjusts the '''monsters''' based on '''your level.''' |
| − | + | The monsters would ''actually'' change. This means that it would be difficult to do what the majority of gamers seem to enjoy doing, which is getting ahead of the power curve. It is impossible to go and craft a ''perfect'' weapon, with the hope in returning to destroy the previous enemy with ease especially if was guarding a treasure chest that the player was curious about. This would have been impossible to do because the monster that was previously guarding the treasure chest had now changed into a more powerful monster to match the character's new level. | |
| − | This | + | This is significantly different from simply having an adjustment to an enemy's ''Italic text''level based upon a player's new ''level'': |
| − | + | Sacred 2 auto-leveling of enemies will have a rat leveling form 1 to 40, which is significantly different from Oblivion's method of auto-leveling monsters which could, for example, have the same rat at level 1, but would now introduce a completely new monster type, a Minotaur for instance, at level 40. | |
| − | + | The two types of leveling found within Sacred 2 and Oblivion are distinct and markedly different from each other. | |
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===Challenge and Difficulty=== | ===Challenge and Difficulty=== | ||
| − | + | One reason why players may not like the auto-leveling feature in Sacred 2 is due to the perception that monsters are not challenging enough, hence the blame on the auto-leveling feature. | |
| + | Auto-leveling is, actually, a moot point since the '''real issue''' is that there is ''no challenge'' and that gamers cannot get ahead due to the perceived auto-balancing. A look at another popular hack 'n slash RPG, Diablo 2, demonstrates that a player could find a great weapon, and they would suddenly be at the upper end of the power curve. The power curve is the balancing mechanism that provides challenge. It ensures that a player is not to strong, and also that an enemy is beatable. The power curve mechanism in Diablo 2 would fluctuate, so that if a player found an enemy that was unbeatable at a certain level, the player could just gain levels, perhaps gain a new skill and then return to the previous monster which could then be beaten. While using that particular method leveling, the game was a constant but enjoyable struggle.In Sacred 2 the difficulty appears fleeting, if not absent. There are possible reasons why this exists: | ||
| − | 1) | + | 1) Perhaps not enough attention was spent on creating the many more different enemies that would be needed to last through the many more levels in Sacred 2 than there are in Diablo 2. |
| − | 2) The world is | + | 2) The world is much larger, free-roaming and therefore needs more content to emulate the same sort of pleasant challenge that Diablo 2 offered. |
| − | 3) The level range is huge, 1-200 | + | 3) The level range in Sacred 2 is huge, 1-200, whereas Titan Quest's was 1-75 and Diablo 2 was 1-99. |
| − | Sacred 2 | + | One of Sacred 2's largest differences to Diablo 2 is it's fully open world. Each area has level caps for the enemies. Rats, for example, in the first area around Sloeford possess a level cap of 37. The reason for this, is that as per the manual, players receive experience based upon the level of the creature defeated. A player would have no reason to kill thousands of creatures that are level 1, who provide no challenge for a level 80 Seraphim, because they would give the player 0 XP. The closer an enemy's level approaches a player's level, the better, the higher compared to your character level the better too as then the highlight for the enemy creature is red which yields maximum experience. The reason enemies increase in level and power as a player does and, as well, the reason that enemies are capped in areas, is to allow a player time to explore a chosen massive area while continuing to level up, without exhausting the supply of enemies close to the player's level, which gives the player enough experience to level up with. |
Diablo 2 [http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Experience did the same thing], except they capped the max too. | Diablo 2 [http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Experience did the same thing], except they capped the max too. | ||
| − | In Diablo 2 the world is linear ( | + | In Diablo 2 the world is linear (randomized, but closed) ,very much like a complex maze. The enemies are staggered in their level. Enemy levels as organized [http://www.d2tomb.com/monsters3.shtml here, ] offer a good range, but are still around the same average level. |
| − | + | Players would constantly fight monsters around their level, by nature of the way the game was controlled. It was a closed system, and players were known to be of a certain level by the time they reached a selected, chosen area. And if not,a player would receive depreciating returns in experience, and thus would found the game difficult to play, as in the jump from normal to nightmare and nightmare to hell, as there were usually a few levels disparity between the two, due to the levels not matching up precisely. | |
===Summary=== | ===Summary=== | ||
| − | + | It would be useful for a player to consider the auto-leveling in initial areas as a large tutorial section. The scant challenge offered purposely, has been created to instruct the player with quests, while familiarizing himself with his character. | |
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Revision as of 13:17, 25 October 2008
Contents
Auto Leveling
Auto leveling in Sacred 2 is a hotly disputed subject, especially after the purported discovery that Oblivion "apparently" does it the same way. This section details the auto leveling in Sacred 2 and also explains why it is a completely different mechanic to the way Oblivion handled it, and also why, in fact, auto leveling is needed for Sacred 2 to function properly.
Oblivion vs Sacred 2 Auto Leveling
There is, firstly, a misunderstanding about auto-leveling. Many players interchangeably use the term with the understanding that leveling is handled the same way in both Oblivion and Sacred 2, while both in fact are different.
Oblivion adjusted the monsters based upon a player's level. This is important:
Oblivion adjusts the monsters based on your level.
The monsters would actually change. This means that it would be difficult to do what the majority of gamers seem to enjoy doing, which is getting ahead of the power curve. It is impossible to go and craft a perfect weapon, with the hope in returning to destroy the previous enemy with ease especially if was guarding a treasure chest that the player was curious about. This would have been impossible to do because the monster that was previously guarding the treasure chest had now changed into a more powerful monster to match the character's new level.
This is significantly different from simply having an adjustment to an enemy's Italic textlevel based upon a player's new level:
Sacred 2 auto-leveling of enemies will have a rat leveling form 1 to 40, which is significantly different from Oblivion's method of auto-leveling monsters which could, for example, have the same rat at level 1, but would now introduce a completely new monster type, a Minotaur for instance, at level 40.
The two types of leveling found within Sacred 2 and Oblivion are distinct and markedly different from each other.
Challenge and Difficulty
One reason why players may not like the auto-leveling feature in Sacred 2 is due to the perception that monsters are not challenging enough, hence the blame on the auto-leveling feature. Auto-leveling is, actually, a moot point since the real issue is that there is no challenge and that gamers cannot get ahead due to the perceived auto-balancing. A look at another popular hack 'n slash RPG, Diablo 2, demonstrates that a player could find a great weapon, and they would suddenly be at the upper end of the power curve. The power curve is the balancing mechanism that provides challenge. It ensures that a player is not to strong, and also that an enemy is beatable. The power curve mechanism in Diablo 2 would fluctuate, so that if a player found an enemy that was unbeatable at a certain level, the player could just gain levels, perhaps gain a new skill and then return to the previous monster which could then be beaten. While using that particular method leveling, the game was a constant but enjoyable struggle.In Sacred 2 the difficulty appears fleeting, if not absent. There are possible reasons why this exists:
1) Perhaps not enough attention was spent on creating the many more different enemies that would be needed to last through the many more levels in Sacred 2 than there are in Diablo 2. 2) The world is much larger, free-roaming and therefore needs more content to emulate the same sort of pleasant challenge that Diablo 2 offered. 3) The level range in Sacred 2 is huge, 1-200, whereas Titan Quest's was 1-75 and Diablo 2 was 1-99.
One of Sacred 2's largest differences to Diablo 2 is it's fully open world. Each area has level caps for the enemies. Rats, for example, in the first area around Sloeford possess a level cap of 37. The reason for this, is that as per the manual, players receive experience based upon the level of the creature defeated. A player would have no reason to kill thousands of creatures that are level 1, who provide no challenge for a level 80 Seraphim, because they would give the player 0 XP. The closer an enemy's level approaches a player's level, the better, the higher compared to your character level the better too as then the highlight for the enemy creature is red which yields maximum experience. The reason enemies increase in level and power as a player does and, as well, the reason that enemies are capped in areas, is to allow a player time to explore a chosen massive area while continuing to level up, without exhausting the supply of enemies close to the player's level, which gives the player enough experience to level up with.
Diablo 2 did the same thing, except they capped the max too.
In Diablo 2 the world is linear (randomized, but closed) ,very much like a complex maze. The enemies are staggered in their level. Enemy levels as organized here, offer a good range, but are still around the same average level.
Players would constantly fight monsters around their level, by nature of the way the game was controlled. It was a closed system, and players were known to be of a certain level by the time they reached a selected, chosen area. And if not,a player would receive depreciating returns in experience, and thus would found the game difficult to play, as in the jump from normal to nightmare and nightmare to hell, as there were usually a few levels disparity between the two, due to the levels not matching up precisely.
Summary
It would be useful for a player to consider the auto-leveling in initial areas as a large tutorial section. The scant challenge offered purposely, has been created to instruct the player with quests, while familiarizing himself with his character.
